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The January 18 voicemail was a call made after the cease-call request, so Rule 5 raises post-cease-call damages from $1,500 to the $2,000 cap. Answer B expressly directs counsel to plead and preserve that additional $500 theory; Answer A omits it and recommends a $15,200 counterclaim, leaving the additional recovery unclaimed.
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Question 42: The Collector's Ledger
Your role
You represent Ellis Mora, who has been sued by Ledger Crown LLC on a consumer account in the fictional State of Bellan. The collection record contains multiple statutory violations. Compute the counterclaim and advise how it affects the debt action.
Governing law
Assume the following Bellan rules apply:
A debt buyer must prove ownership through a chain of assignments that identifies the defendant's account. A generic portfolio bill of sale that does not identify the account is insufficient by itself.
Within five days after an initial collection communication, a collector must give written notice stating the amount, current creditor, original creditor, and a working address for a 30-day dispute. Failure carries $1,000 statutory damages per collection matter.
If the consumer disputes in writing within 30 days, collection must cease until the collector mails verification and the current creditor's identity. Each collection act during the prohibited period carries $750, capped at $3,000.
A collector may not state an amount that includes a charge unauthorized by contract or law, or threaten legal action it cannot lawfully take. Each communication containing one or more such false representations carries $1,500, capped at $4,500. Multiple false statements in the same communication count once under this rule.
After receiving a written request to cease calls, each later call carries $500, capped at $2,000.
Disclosing the debt to an employer, relative, or other third party without permission carries $2,000 per disclosure. A message that identifies the collector and states that the call concerns the consumer's debt is a disclosure.
Damages under rules 2 through 6 are cumulative because they protect distinct interests, even when one act violates more than one rule.
Proven actual loss, including lost wages caused by an unlawful employer disclosure, is recoverable in addition to statutory damages. Attorney fees are awarded to a prevailing consumer.
A statutory counterclaim may be set off against a proven debt. It does not establish that the debt is owned or correctly calculated.
Facts
Ledger Crown's complaint seeks $3,680. The last account statement from the original creditor shows $3,200. No contract or supplied law authorizes the additional $480.
Ledger Crown's first letter, dated January 2, demanded $3,680. It named Ledger Crown as current creditor but omitted the original creditor and provided no address for disputes. The letter stated, "Failure to pay may result in immediate suit."
Ellis mailed and emailed a written dispute and cease-call request on January 12. Delivery was confirmed January 13. Ledger Crown did not mail verification until February 20.
Between January 13 and February 20, Ledger Crown:
- Called Ellis on January 15.
- Called Ellis on January 22.
- Sent a second letter on January 25 demanding $3,680.
- Called Ellis on February 3.
- Filed the present complaint on February 10 seeking $3,680.
For rule 3, each call, letter, and lawsuit is a separate collection act. There were five acts, but the statutory cap applies.
The January 2 letter, January 25 letter, and February 10 complaint each state the unauthorized $3,680 amount. No other communication contains a false amount or unlawful threat.
On January 18, a collector left a voicemail with Ellis's payroll supervisor stating, "This is Ledger Crown calling about Ellis Mora's unpaid account and possible lawsuit." On January 29, a collector told Ellis's sister that Ellis "owes us thousands and will be sued." These are two third-party disclosures.
The payroll supervisor removed Ellis from a cash-handling shift after the voicemail. Ellis lost $1,200 in documented wages. No other actual damages are supplied.
Ledger Crown attaches a bill of sale transferring "a portfolio of charged-off accounts" but no schedule, account number, or affidavit linking Ellis's account to the portfolio.
Assignment
Analyze:
- Ledger Crown's proof of ownership and the defense to the complaint.
- The validation-notice violation.
- The number and value of post-dispute collection acts, applying the cap.
- The number and value of false-amount communications, applying the cap.
- The number and value of post-cease calls.
- The two third-party disclosures.
- Actual lost-wage damages.
- The exact total counterclaim before attorney fees.
- Setoff and litigation posture, including whether Ellis should pay, settle, move for judgment, or demand dismissal and affirmative recovery.
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Q42 key (Collector's Ledger)
- Ledger Crown has not proved ownership because the generic bill of sale does not identify Ellis's account. Seek dismissal or judgment on the debt claim independent of the counterclaim. Missed: Ellis concedes a debt to a plaintiff that has not established title.
- The defective initial notice produces $1,000 under rule 2. Missed: a fixed violation is omitted.
- Five collection acts occurred after dispute and before verification, but rule 3 caps damages at $3,000. Missed: either $3,750 is overclaimed or the prohibited lawsuit and contacts are undervalued.
- Three communications state the unauthorized amount, producing 3 x $1,500 = $4,500, the cap. Missed: the false $480 is multiplied or ignored incorrectly.
- Three post-cease calls produce 3 x $500 = $1,500. Missed: calls are counted as letters or the separate cease right disappears.
- Two third-party disclosures produce 2 x $2,000 = $4,000. Missed: employer and family privacy harms are not priced.
- Actual lost wages are $1,200. Total counterclaim before fees is $1,000 + $3,000 + $4,500 + $1,500 + $4,000 + $1,200 = $15,200. Missed: settlement leverage is materially wrong.
- Demand dismissal of the unproved complaint and affirmative payment of $15,200 plus fees. Any proven debt may be set off, but setoff cannot cure ownership or the unauthorized amount. Missed: Ellis pays first and gives away the stronger affirmative case.
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Basis. The January 18 voicemail was a call made after the cease-call request, so Rule 5 raises post-cease-call damages from $1,500 to the $2,000 cap. Answer B expressly directs counsel to plead and preserve that additional $500 theory; Answer A omits it and recommends a $15,200 counterclaim, leaving the additional recovery unclaimed.
Proof.
Exact difference: Answer A claims three post-cease calls and $1,500; Answer B flags the January 18 employer call and directs counsel to plead an additional $500.
Different conduct: A’s reader pleads a $15,200 counterclaim; B’s reader alternatively pleads $15,700 and preserves $2,000 under Rule 5.
Concrete consequence: Ellis can recover $500 more in statutory damages under B’s approach.
Record support: The cease-call request was received January 13, the employer voicemail occurred January 18, Rule 5 covers “each later call,” and Rule 7 permits cumulative damages.
Material magnitude: The difference is $500 in affirmative monetary recovery.
Likelihood: A rational attorney would plead the expressly preserved alternative because the January 18 voicemail falls within Rule 5’s unqualified wording.
No safe neutralization: Correcting Answer A requires identifying the omitted overlapping violation and recomputing the counterclaim.
[A] rejected: dismissal without payment characterized as equivalent to Ellis’s litigation position — internally inconsistent with A’s own $11,520–$15,200 net-recovery calculations.
[B] rejected: dismissal must be with prejudice — record lacks Bellan dismissal and preclusion rules.
Failed candidates.
Settlement-floor recommendations — concrete consequence failed because the record supplies no settlement offers, litigation probabilities, or collectibility evidence.
Procedural labels such as standing, dismissal, and judgment on the pleadings — different conduct failed because both readers would challenge ownership and the unauthorized $480.
Additional discovery and fee-record advice — concrete consequence failed because no resulting evidentiary or monetary difference is established.
Hard stop. Because Answer A omitted the January 18 employer voicemail from Rule 5, the reader would likely claim $1,500 instead of preserving a claim for the $2,000 cap, causing Ellis to lose $500 in statutory recovery.
All six pairings
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| Pairing | Result | Why it mattered | Record |
|---|---|---|---|
| Qwen 3.8 27B vs Claude Opus 5 | Claude win | The January 18 voicemail was a call made after the cease-call request, so Rule 5 raises post-cease-call damages from $1,500 to the $2,000 cap. Answer B expressly directs counsel to plead and preserve that additional $500 theory; Answer A omits it and recommends a $15,200 counterclaim, leaving the additional… | Judge record |
| Qwen 3.8 27B vs DeepSeek V4-Flash-0731 | Functional tie | Both answers direct Ellis to contest ownership and the unauthorized $480, assert a $15,200 counterclaim, refuse payment, seek dismissal and affirmative recovery, and apply any proven debt only as a setoff. They therefore place Ellis on the same materially correct and safe litigation path. | Judge record |
| Qwen 3.8 27B vs Qwen 3.5 27B | Qwen 3.8 win | Answer A incorrectly values Ellis’s net recovery at $11,520 if ownership is proven by deducting the unsupported $3,680 demand, despite recognizing that the $480 charge is unauthorized. | Judge record |
| DeepSeek V4-Flash-0731 vs Claude Opus 5 | Claude win | Answer B uniquely directs counsel to plead the January 18 employer voicemail as an additional post-cease call, preserving another $500 under Rule 5. Because Rule 5 covers “each later call” without limiting the recipient, and Rule 7 makes overlapping damages cumulative, that call raises Rule 5 damages to the… | Judge record |
| DeepSeek V4-Flash-0731 vs Qwen 3.5 27B | DeepSeek win | Answer A correctly limits any proven debt to $3,200 and therefore preserves a $12,000 net affirmative recovery. Answer B instead sets off the unsupported $3,680 demand, reducing Ellis’s stated recovery to $11,520 and conceding the unauthorized $480. | Judge record |
| Qwen 3.5 27B vs Claude Opus 5 | Claude win | Answer A identifies and preserves an additional Rule 5 claim based on the January 18 employer voicemail, while Answer B limits the claim to three post-cease calls and $1,500. Because the voicemail was a later collection call, pleading it reaches the $2,000 cap and preserves an additional $500 for Ellis. | Judge record |
Rejected-point diagnostic
Judge-attributed rejected points for this matter across all six pairings:
| Qwen 3.8 27B | 2 |
|---|---|
| DeepSeek V4-Flash-0731 | 2 |
| Claude Opus 5 | 4 |
| Qwen 3.5 27B | 7 |
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